Our sample PEC items before recent training We've held it on the third Sunday to allow the collection of last months home teaching statistics, and since this is just after the quorums turn in their home teaching reports to the bishopric and stake, it is when these are reviewed. Because of the attendance of YM, HP and Elders, it is a great time to coordinate not only home teaching, but Service Assignments and Priesthood advancements YM and Prospective which often involve coordination between the quorums and HP group, without the whole Council's time in Ward council to be taken discussing them.
Companions assigned as home teachers, but not making it out to do their home teaching 4 Priesthood advancement goals and plans for YM and Prospective Elders under the care of HP or Elders. I'm not sure how much this will change now Re: What is the purpose of PEC? Post by natemaria » Sun Jan 18, am kisac this is a great agenda. HT Report - OK, though what happens when discussing a family without the RS President, seems like information that will be repeated or half-baked if the RS isn't included.
After the new handbook came out that clearly de-emphasized the role of PEC - and a follow-up in the WWT events, this was a follow-up discussion addresses by E. He didn't come right out and say not to hold it, but as for me, it's MAYBE a 15 minutes a month thing, where Ward Council is a regular meeting. Post by sbradshaw » Thu Jan 22, am This is an interesting discussion. My ward is in a habit of holding ward council meeting the first and third Sundays and PEC the second and fourth Sundays.
Sometimes as a ward council member I feel out of the loop because ward council-like items were discussed during PEC as if it were a ward council meeting, but without half of the ward council.
I don't think we've stopped to think about the difference and purpose of each, but it would be helpful. I'm not in a direct position to change it, but I'll see if I can bring it up as a suggestion one of these days. The appeal form are on line. Dennis , have you talked with a lawyer? Any idea on costs? Same old politics. Are you aware of the history and culture of Shire Hall and how it operates and is managed?
What this exchange and banter has shown is that there is a lot of interest in the community over this issue of council size. I for one believe that our Council no longer has any credibility left — not even most of the newly elected. Bill Roberts is the exception and deserves our support. Talk about a make work project — disgusting! Yes, a block. There are a few blocks therein, another is the 4 in the old boys club. All of them politicking along. Is this what would happen with a member council?
Blocks facing off against one another? Power for sale? Anyhow all this past being regurgitated gets us back to the question on the ballot… vicious circle, the wheel of fortune taking a turn. Desperate people, do desperate things. He said it, he did it by 2 this time. In 5yrs. They consistently vote as a block. Their real role should have been to listen and gather community opinion rather than presenting their own selfish agenda.
Please say hello to the Ameliasburgh 3 for us all! Your rebuttals to so many makes one believe you are doing it on behalf of others. So explain to us all again, why a petition to seek cost from taxpayers challenging a foolish council decision is justified and why not demand payment from a council that has wasted so much time and money on protecting their own jobs.
Dennis Fox: Anyone can sit in the pew at Shire Hall and watch petitions be entered. I was there that night. I listened. I heard that people from all over the county signed. You seem to find someone to blame. Do you not feel tricked? Fear is a political tactic. You either succumb to it or face it, go forward and find out the truth. There is always a first time. I dare surmise to set a precedent. Put it in the council record to move it forward for next time.
What is the history of a ruling like that? The Mayor is in a tough spot on this one. After his vivid comments following the vote for the 9 Ward Plan he would surely be called as a witness for the appellant. I suspect Councilor Roberts would be called as well. The Mayor was initially furious with this decision and the process manipulation used to get there.
As Emily stated he has since softened or avoided the discussion knowing full well that the County is on a slippery slope. He fears for good reason that the OMB will implement a ward system that while fair to all, it is not County chosen.
He was angry. There was nothing relevant to discuss. I remember other quarters were we met several times to solve and resolve issues.
They were effective because we had something that needed done and accountability. Sometimes meetings can feel like we are killing time because we are supposed to. Not recommending that this is the solution for all or even any wards, but I will say it made a big difference in what we actually got done in that ward for the positive. My ward has the same problem. PEC is a repeat of Ward Council. It's a complete waste of time. My interpretation is what the handbook outlines as you have posted. Ultimately you are stuck with what the Bishop decides to do.
If I were you I would point out the distinctions to the Bishop on a regular basis, and lobby for a change. I've been in and out of the ward council and PEC for years now -- currently out. My ward has either a ward council or a PEC almost every week, and it goes a full hour and sometimes 90 minutes. It's not wasted time, either; the leaders need every minute to cover the issues and coordinate the actions that are needed to help people out. Every ward is different, of course. But I can't imagine how a ward can be run well with the ward council meeting only once a month.
Even if everyone in the ward is filthy rich, people have problems. Maybe the fact that we have and effectively use those meetings is one reason why our ward is so outstanding My experience is that both kinds of meetings are useful, and more so when held regularly, and in a planned and structured manner.
However, its also my experience that both meetings could nearly always be shorter and better managed than they usually end up being, with no loss of quality. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Already have an account? Sign in here. Third Hour Forum Rules - Please be familiar with these rules before posting.
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